From John at mib-infotech.co.nz  Fri Oct  3 18:35:14 2008
From: John at mib-infotech.co.nz (John Huttley)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:35:14 +1300
Subject: [paludis-user] /usr/libexec/paludis/utils/sed No such file or
	directory
Message-ID: <48E69E22.2060605@mib-infotech.co.nz>

Hi

I'm getting a few packages that cannot be installed with paludis

Its a libtool error

apache and now xfsprogs-2.10.1  (X64) have this error

Any suggestions?


Regards,

John



From ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com  Fri Oct  3 18:52:09 2008
From: ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com (Ciaran McCreesh)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 23:52:09 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] /usr/libexec/paludis/utils/sed No such file or
 directory
In-Reply-To: <48E69E22.2060605@mib-infotech.co.nz>
References: <48E69E22.2060605@mib-infotech.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20081003235209.3afe0535@snowmobile>

On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:35:14 +1300
John Huttley <John at mib-infotech.co.nz> wrote:
> I'm getting a few packages that cannot be installed with paludis
> 
> Its a libtool error
> 
> apache and now xfsprogs-2.10.1  (X64) have this error
> 
> Any suggestions?

Reinstall libtool.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh
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From mike at marskreations.com  Fri Oct  3 18:53:50 2008
From: mike at marskreations.com (Mike Reynolds)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:53:50 -0400
Subject: [paludis-user] /usr/libexec/paludis/utils/sed No such file or
 directory
In-Reply-To: <48E69E22.2060605@mib-infotech.co.nz>
References: <48E69E22.2060605@mib-infotech.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20081003185350.05693b91@lestat>

Hello,

The topic in #paludis used to say 'rebuild libtool' I assume that comment is
meant for people in your situation. Give it a go.

-- 
Best Regards,

Mike Reynolds


On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:35:14 +1300, John Huttley <John at mib-infotech.co.nz>
wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I'm getting a few packages that cannot be installed with paludis
> 
> Its a libtool error
> 
> apache and now xfsprogs-2.10.1  (X64) have this error
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> paludis-user mailing list
> paludis-user at lists.pioto.org
> http://lists.pioto.org/mailman/listinfo/paludis-user



From John at mib-infotech.co.nz  Fri Oct  3 19:39:43 2008
From: John at mib-infotech.co.nz (John Huttley)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:39:43 +1300
Subject: [paludis-user] /usr/libexec/paludis/utils/sed No such file or
 directory
In-Reply-To: <20081003185350.05693b91@lestat>
References: <48E69E22.2060605@mib-infotech.co.nz>
	<20081003185350.05693b91@lestat>
Message-ID: <48E6AD3F.1010501@mib-infotech.co.nz>

Thanks! it works great!

Regards,

John


Mike Reynolds wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The topic in #paludis used to say 'rebuild libtool' I assume that comment is
> meant for people in your situation. Give it a go.
>
>   

From john at mib-infotech.co.nz  Fri Oct  3 19:50:37 2008
From: john at mib-infotech.co.nz (John Huttley)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 12:50:37 +1300
Subject: [paludis-user] No package available for ..
Message-ID: <200810041250.37127.john@mib-infotech.co.nz>

Can anyone say what this means? (during the start of an install, for any 
package)

It doesn't seem to stop things from working.

I run half a dozen systems and they all complain about something, usually the 
kernel, one about clamav.


  ... When finding provided packages for 'installed':
  ... No package available for 'sys-kernel/gentoo-sources 2.6.25-r1'
paludis at 1223077529: [WARNING e.vdb.provides.no_package] (same context) No 
package available for 'sys-kernel/gentoo-sources 2.6.25-r4'



Regards,

John




From ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com  Fri Oct  3 19:54:54 2008
From: ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com (Ciaran McCreesh)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 00:54:54 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] No package available for ..
In-Reply-To: <200810041250.37127.john@mib-infotech.co.nz>
References: <200810041250.37127.john@mib-infotech.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20081004005454.55578217@snowmobile>

On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 12:50:37 +1300
John Huttley <john at mib-infotech.co.nz> wrote:
> Can anyone say what this means? (during the start of an install, for
> any package)
> 
> It doesn't seem to stop things from working.
> 
> I run half a dozen systems and they all complain about something,
> usually the kernel, one about clamav.
> 
>   ... When finding provided packages for 'installed':
>   ... No package available for 'sys-kernel/gentoo-sources 2.6.25-r1'
> paludis at 1223077529: [WARNING e.vdb.provides.no_package] (same
> context) No package available for 'sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
> 2.6.25-r4'

It means your provides cache is out of date. This most commonly happens
if you mix Portage and Paludis usage, although it can also be caused by
Gentoo developers screwing around with metadata in weird ways.

You can probably fix it by paludis --regenerate-installed-cache.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

From John at mib-infotech.co.nz  Fri Oct  3 20:12:00 2008
From: John at mib-infotech.co.nz (John Huttley)
Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:12:00 +1300
Subject: [paludis-user] No package available for ..
In-Reply-To: <20081004005454.55578217@snowmobile>
References: <200810041250.37127.john@mib-infotech.co.nz>
	<20081004005454.55578217@snowmobile>
Message-ID: <48E6B4D0.5080000@mib-infotech.co.nz>

Thats fixed it. A happy day for me! Two annoying issues solved.

I no longer use portage, so I'll keep any eye out if this creeps back in.

Regards,

john

Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 12:50:37 +1300
> John Huttley <john at mib-infotech.co.nz> wrote:
>   
>> Can anyone say what this means? (during the start of an install, for
>> any package)
>>
>> It doesn't seem to stop things from working.
>>
>> I run half a dozen systems and they all complain about something,
>> usually the kernel, one about clamav.
>>
>>   ... When finding provided packages for 'installed':
>>   ... No package available for 'sys-kernel/gentoo-sources 2.6.25-r1'
>> paludis at 1223077529: [WARNING e.vdb.provides.no_package] (same
>> context) No package available for 'sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
>> 2.6.25-r4'
>>     
>
> It means your provides cache is out of date. This most commonly happens
> if you mix Portage and Paludis usage, although it can also be caused by
> Gentoo developers screwing around with metadata in weird ways.
>
> You can probably fix it by paludis --regenerate-installed-cache.
>
>   
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From dirk.heinrichs.ext at nsn.com  Wed Oct  8 03:18:32 2008
From: dirk.heinrichs.ext at nsn.com (Dirk Heinrichs)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 09:18:32 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] Paludis won't update texlive
Message-ID: <200810080918.33992.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com>

Hi,

I've got a system configured for ~x86, and there are no masks or blockers for 
texlive for this arch but still paludis refuses to update texlive from 2007-r3 
to 2008. All dependencies, like texlive-core, have been updated just fine.

# paludis -ip =texlive-2008
Building target list...
Building dependency list...
Query error:
  * In program paludis (--log-level warning --dl-downgrade warning --dl-
reinstall if-use-changed --continue-on-failure if-independent --debug-build 
none) -i =texlive-2008:
  * When performing install action from command line:
  * When executing install task:
  * When building dependency list:
  * When adding PackageDepSpec '=app-text/texlive-2008':
  * No versions of '=app-text/texlive-2008' are available. Looking for 
suggestions:
Suggestions:
  * app-text/texlive

# eix texlive|head
[U] app-text/texlive
     Available versions:  2007-r3 (~)2008 [Use flags snipped]
     Installed versions:  2007-r3(18:56:12 07.10.2008) [Use flags snipped]

Any hints?

Thanks...

	Dirk
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From bo.andresen at zlin.dk  Wed Oct  8 03:31:47 2008
From: bo.andresen at zlin.dk (Bo =?utf-8?q?=C3=98rsted_Andresen?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 09:31:47 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] Paludis won't update texlive
In-Reply-To: <200810080918.33992.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com>
References: <200810080918.33992.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com>
Message-ID: <200810080931.52229.bo.andresen@zlin.dk>

On Wednesday 08 October 2008 09:18:32 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> I've got a system configured for ~x86, and there are no masks or blockers
> for texlive for this arch but still paludis refuses to update texlive from
> 2007-r3 to 2008. All dependencies, like texlive-core, have been updated
> just fine.
>
> # paludis -ip =texlive-2008
[...]
>   * No versions of '=app-text/texlive-2008' are available. Looking for
> suggestions:
> Suggestions:
>   * app-text/texlive
>
> # eix texlive|head
> [U] app-text/texlive
>      Available versions:  2007-r3 (~)2008 [Use flags snipped]
>      Installed versions:  2007-r3(18:56:12 07.10.2008) [Use flags snipped]
>
> Any hints?

--query is your friend. The solution is to upgrade paludis.

$ paludis --query =app-text/texlive-2008
* =app-text/texlive-2008
    gentoo:                  (2008)E* {:UNKNOWN}
    Masked by eapi:          Unsupported EAPI '2'

-- 
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From dirk.heinrichs.ext at nsn.com  Wed Oct  8 05:27:35 2008
From: dirk.heinrichs.ext at nsn.com (Dirk Heinrichs)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 11:27:35 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] Paludis won't update texlive
In-Reply-To: <200810080931.52229.bo.andresen@zlin.dk>
References: <200810080918.33992.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com>
	<200810080931.52229.bo.andresen@zlin.dk>
Message-ID: <200810081127.35712.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com>

Am Mittwoch 08 Oktober 2008 09:31:47 schrieb ext Bo ?rsted Andresen:
> > Any hints?
>
> --query is your friend. The solution is to upgrade paludis.
>
> $ paludis --query =app-text/texlive-2008
> * =app-text/texlive-2008
> ? ? gentoo: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?(2008)E* {:UNKNOWN}
> ? ? Masked by eapi: ? ? ? ? ?Unsupported EAPI '2'

Yep, that changes things, thanks. Oh, and I can now also update KDE from 4.1.1 
to 4.1.2, great :-) Didn't work for the same reason.

Bye...

	Dirk
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From lists at 404not-found.de  Fri Oct 10 11:42:59 2008
From: lists at 404not-found.de (Raimar Sandner)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:42:59 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
Message-ID: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>

Hi,

I'm aware of the fact that paludis enforces the dependencies of
installed packages, and therefore sometimes tries to downgrade
packages like qt which have recently been upgraded if there are
other packages installed depending on the old version.

But nevertheless I don't understand the following: I have upgraded
x11-libs/qt from 4.3.5 to 4.4.2, now I get:

$ paludis -pi strigi
Building target list...             
Building dependency list...paludis at 1223650480: [WARNING dep_list.downgrade] In program paludis (--continue-on-failure if-satisfied --log-level warning) -pi strigi:                                                                                             
  ... When performing install action from command line:                                                                         
  ... When executing install task:                                                                                              
  ... When building dependency list:                                                                                            
  ... When adding PackageDepSpec 'app-misc/strigi':
  ... When adding package 'app-misc/strigi-0.5.11:0::gentoo':
  ... When adding build dependencies as pre dependencies:
  ... When using already installed package to resolve dependencies:
  ... When adding PackageDepSpec '=x11-libs/qt-4.3*:4[dbus]':
  ... Downgrade to 'x11-libs/qt-4.3.5:4::gentoo' from 'x11-libs/qt-4.4.2:4::installed' forced


These packages will be installed:

* app-misc/strigi::gentoo [R 0.5.11] <target>
    clucene dbus -debug -exif -fam -hyperestraier -inotify -log qt4 -test

Total: 1 package (1 rebuild)

 * No unread news items found



But qt actually is NOT downgraded. And I already have reinstalled
app-misc/strigi, so it should depend on the new qt stuff as in

$ paludis --query -D app-misc/strigi
* app-misc/strigi
<snip>
            qt4? (
                || (
                    (
                        x11-libs/qt-core:4
                        x11-libs/qt-gui:4
                        x11-libs/qt-dbus:4
                    )
                    =x11-libs/qt-4.3*:4[dbus]
                )
            )
<snip>

As far as I understand, strigi depends on either qt-core,qt-gui,qt-dbus OR the
old monolitic qt-4.3*:4.

So what is the downgrade warning all about?

Thanks,
Raimar Sandner

From markus at unixforces.net  Fri Oct 10 12:30:11 2008
From: markus at unixforces.net (Markus Rothe)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:30:11 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
In-Reply-To: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>
Message-ID: <20081010163011.GB11840@unixforces.net>

Raimar Sandner wrote:
[snip]
> But nevertheless I don't understand the following: I have upgraded
> x11-libs/qt from 4.3.5 to 4.4.2, now I get:
[snip]

Have you tried recompiling strigi? I think you need to recompile it to get the
"new" dependencies. I.e. the split qt packages.

-markus
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From lists at 404not-found.de  Fri Oct 10 13:05:17 2008
From: lists at 404not-found.de (Raimar Sandner)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:05:17 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
In-Reply-To: <20081010163011.GB11840@unixforces.net>
References: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>
	<20081010163011.GB11840@unixforces.net>
Message-ID: <20081010170517.GA27257@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>

On 18:30 Fri 10 Oct     , Markus Rothe wrote:
> Raimar Sandner wrote:
> [snip]
> > But nevertheless I don't understand the following: I have upgraded
> > x11-libs/qt from 4.3.5 to 4.4.2, now I get:
> [snip]
> >But qt actually is NOT downgraded. And I already have reinstalled
> >app-misc/strigi, so it should depend on the new qt stuff
> [snip]
> 
> Have you tried recompiling strigi? I think you need to recompile it to get the
> "new" dependencies. I.e. the split qt packages.

Thanks for the reply, yes I have tried this. I have mentioned it in
the original mail, though somewhat hidden between the two paludis
outputs :)

Greetings, 
Raimar

From ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 10 13:43:03 2008
From: ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com (Ciaran McCreesh)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:43:03 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
In-Reply-To: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>
References: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>
Message-ID: <20081010184303.0306db15@snowmobile>

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:42:59 +0200
Raimar Sandner <lists at 404not-found.de> wrote:
> But nevertheless I don't understand the following: I have upgraded
> x11-libs/qt from 4.3.5 to 4.4.2, now I get:
<snip> 
> So what is the downgrade warning all about?

The resolver's being stupid. Reinstalling the appropriate packages with
the use flags changed as per the deps will fix it.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh
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From David.Pyke at csa.ca  Fri Oct 10 14:24:37 2008
From: David.Pyke at csa.ca (David Pyke)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:24:37 -0400
Subject: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
In-Reply-To: <20081010184303.0306db15@snowmobile>
References: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>
	<20081010184303.0306db15@snowmobile>
Message-ID: <73EBA28FD357C648B9B28C2FF2ABBE40022ADD79@stdmsxbe1.corp.csa-group.org>

I don't know if that will fix it.  I've been getting the same issue due to poppler-bindings and have ignored it as it hasn't actually done anything.

I've re-installed (and upgraded) poppler and all its wonders and am still getting the warning. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: paludis-user-bounces at lists.pioto.org [mailto:paludis-user-bounces at lists.pioto.org] On Behalf Of Ciaran McCreesh
Sent: October 10, 2008 1:43 PM
To: paludis-user at lists.pioto.org
Subject: Re: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:42:59 +0200
Raimar Sandner <lists at 404not-found.de> wrote:
> But nevertheless I don't understand the following: I have upgraded 
> x11-libs/qt from 4.3.5 to 4.4.2, now I get:
<snip> 
> So what is the downgrade warning all about?

The resolver's being stupid. Reinstalling the appropriate packages with the use flags changed as per the deps will fix it.

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From ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 10 14:32:36 2008
From: ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com (Ciaran McCreesh)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:32:36 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] Paludis 0.30.3 released
Message-ID: <20081010193236.66523022@googlemail.com>

Paludis 0.30.3 has been released:

    * Tests would fail for 0.30.2 on some systems. This is now fixed.

-- 
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From paludis at benizi.com  Fri Oct 10 16:01:18 2008
From: paludis at benizi.com (Benjamin R. Haskell)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:01:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
In-Reply-To: <73EBA28FD357C648B9B28C2FF2ABBE40022ADD79@stdmsxbe1.corp.csa-group.org>
References: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>
	<20081010184303.0306db15@snowmobile>
	<73EBA28FD357C648B9B28C2FF2ABBE40022ADD79@stdmsxbe1.corp.csa-group.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0810101549330.6314@acer.home.local>

> > -----Original Message-----
> > Subject: Re: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
> >
> > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:42:59 +0200
> > Raimar Sandner <lists at 404not-found.de> wrote:
> > > But nevertheless I don't understand the following: I have upgraded 
> > > x11-libs/qt from 4.3.5 to 4.4.2, now I get:
> > <snip>
> > > So what is the downgrade warning all about?
> >
> > The resolver's being stupid. Reinstalling the appropriate packages 
> > with the use flags changed as per the deps will fix it.
> >
> > --
> > Ciaran McCreesh
> >

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, David Pyke wrote:

> I don't know if that will fix it.  I've been getting the same issue due 
> to poppler-bindings and have ignored it as it hasn't actually done 
> anything.
>
> I've re-installed (and upgraded) poppler and all its wonders and am 
> still getting the warning.
> __________________
> David Pyke

I also encountered the problem via poppler, and fixed it by masking the 
unneeded qt.

$ grep qt /etc/paludis/package_mask.conf
<x11-libs/qt-4.4:4

Best,
Ben

From tomcooksey at googlemail.com  Fri Oct 10 18:21:23 2008
From: tomcooksey at googlemail.com (Tom Cooksey)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:21:23 -0400
Subject: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0810101549330.6314@acer.home.local>
References: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>
	<20081010184303.0306db15@snowmobile>
	<73EBA28FD357C648B9B28C2FF2ABBE40022ADD79@stdmsxbe1.corp.csa-group.org>
	<alpine.LNX.2.00.0810101549330.6314@acer.home.local>
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> I also encountered the problem via poppler, and fixed it by masking the
> unneeded qt.
>
> $ grep qt /etc/paludis/package_mask.conf
> <x11-libs/qt-4.4:4

I also had the problem that qt downgrade was forced by
app-text/poppler-bindings (& fixed it the same way). The crazy thing I
found was that it would keep downgrading then upgrading then
downgrading every time I ran paludis --install world.

After looking at the src, I think it's the poppler-bindings ebuild
which is at fault:

RDEPEND="~app-text/poppler-${PV}
	cairo? ( >=x11-libs/cairo-1.4 )
	gtk? (
		>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8
		>=gnome-base/libglade-2
	)
	qt3? ( =x11-libs/qt-3* )
	qt4? ( || ( ( x11-libs/qt-core:4
			x11-libs/qt-gui:4
			x11-libs/qt-test:4 )
		=x11-libs/qt-4.3*:4 ) )"

I'm no ebuild expert, but I believe the last line is a bit suspect?
Surely this should be >=x11-libs/qt-4.3*:4 ? Or is that there because
Qt 4.4 uses split packages whereas 4.3 doesn't and the line is to
catch older, non-split 4.3 Qt versions?

I've had a similar problem with ffmpeg (being repeatedly downgraded
then upgraded again) but I can't remember the exact circumstances or
which packages were causing the up/down-grade.


Cheers,

Tom

From paludis at benizi.com  Fri Oct 10 18:25:42 2008
From: paludis at benizi.com (Benjamin R. Haskell)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:25:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
In-Reply-To: <eed7f0160810101521o31ac20c4n1fad6fc51a3443d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>
	<20081010184303.0306db15@snowmobile>
	<73EBA28FD357C648B9B28C2FF2ABBE40022ADD79@stdmsxbe1.corp.csa-group.org>
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	<eed7f0160810101521o31ac20c4n1fad6fc51a3443d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0810101822440.6314@acer.home.local>

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Tom Cooksey wrote:

>> I also encountered the problem via poppler, and fixed it by masking the
>> unneeded qt.
>>
>> $ grep qt /etc/paludis/package_mask.conf
>> <x11-libs/qt-4.4:4
>
> I also had the problem that qt downgrade was forced by
> app-text/poppler-bindings (& fixed it the same way). The crazy thing I
> found was that it would keep downgrading then upgrading then
> downgrading every time I ran paludis --install world.
>
> After looking at the src, I think it's the poppler-bindings ebuild
> which is at fault:
>
> RDEPEND="~app-text/poppler-${PV}
> 	cairo? ( >=x11-libs/cairo-1.4 )
> 	gtk? (
> 		>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8
> 		>=gnome-base/libglade-2
> 	)
> 	qt3? ( =x11-libs/qt-3* )
> 	qt4? ( || ( ( x11-libs/qt-core:4
> 			x11-libs/qt-gui:4
> 			x11-libs/qt-test:4 )
> 		=x11-libs/qt-4.3*:4 ) )"
>
> I'm no ebuild expert, but I believe the last line is a bit suspect? 
> Surely this should be >=x11-libs/qt-4.3*:4 ? Or is that there because Qt 
> 4.4 uses split packages whereas 4.3 doesn't and the line is to catch 
> older, non-split 4.3 Qt versions?

Yes, that's the explanation: Qt 4.4 uses split packages, but poppler can 
still use the non-split Qt 4.3.

Best,
Ben

From lists at 404not-found.de  Fri Oct 10 21:45:25 2008
From: lists at 404not-found.de (Raimar Sandner)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:45:25 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0810101549330.6314@acer.home.local>
References: <20081010154259.GA24654@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>
	<20081010184303.0306db15@snowmobile>
	<73EBA28FD357C648B9B28C2FF2ABBE40022ADD79@stdmsxbe1.corp.csa-group.org>
	<alpine.LNX.2.00.0810101549330.6314@acer.home.local>
Message-ID: <20081011014525.GA10161@worm.fdm.uni-freiburg.de>

On 16:01 Fri 10 Oct     , Benjamin R. Haskell wrote:
>> > -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [paludis-user]
>> > downgrade forced, but nothing is downgraded
>> >
>> > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:42:59 +0200 Raimar Sandner
>> > <lists at 404not-found.de> wrote:
>> > > But nevertheless I don't understand the following: I have
>> > > upgraded  x11-libs/qt from 4.3.5 to 4.4.2, now I get:
>> > <snip>
>> > > So what is the downgrade warning all about?
>
> I also encountered the problem via poppler, and fixed it by
> masking the  unneeded qt.
>
> $ grep qt /etc/paludis/package_mask.conf 
> <x11-libs/qt-4.4:4

Thanks for the hint, that did the trick.

Greetings,
Raimar

From dirk.heinrichs at online.de  Sat Oct 11 09:26:26 2008
From: dirk.heinrichs at online.de (Dirk Heinrichs)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:26:26 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] Uninstalling portage
Message-ID: <200810111526.26380.dirk.heinrichs@online.de>

Hi,

I've noticed there's a virtual/portage now, so I tried uninstalling sys-
apps/portage and got this:

# paludis --uninstall -p portage
Building unmerge list... done

These packages will be uninstalled:

* app-accessibility/freetts-1.2.1-r1::installed requires <sys-
apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
* app-admin/python-updater-0.6::installed requires <sys-
apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
* app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.4.2::installed requires <sys-
apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
* app-portage/udept-0.5.99.0.2.95-r1::installed requires <sys-
apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
* dev-java/ant-core-1.7.1-r1::installed requires <sys-
apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
* dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.07-r1::installed requires <sys-
apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
* kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.9-r4:3.5::installed requires <sys-
apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
* sys-libs/glibc-2.8_p20080602::installed requires <sys-
apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
* sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed

I can understand that udept, gentoolkit and python-updater apear on the list, 
but what in hell makes kdelibs, sun-jdk or even glibc depend on portage???

/me scratching head.

Bye...

	Dirk

From paludis at benizi.com  Sat Oct 11 10:28:32 2008
From: paludis at benizi.com (Benjamin R. Haskell)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:28:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [paludis-user] Uninstalling portage
In-Reply-To: <200810111526.26380.dirk.heinrichs@online.de>
References: <200810111526.26380.dirk.heinrichs@online.de>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0810111002360.6314@acer.home.local>

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've noticed there's a virtual/portage now, so I tried uninstalling sys- 
> apps/portage and got this:
>
> # paludis --uninstall -p portage
> Building unmerge list... done
>
> These packages will be uninstalled:
>
> * app-accessibility/freetts-1.2.1-r1::installed requires <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
> * app-admin/python-updater-0.6::installed requires <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
> * app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.4.2::installed requires <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
> * app-portage/udept-0.5.99.0.2.95-r1::installed requires <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
> * dev-java/ant-core-1.7.1-r1::installed requires <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
> * dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.07-r1::installed requires <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
> * kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.9-r4:3.5::installed requires <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
> * sys-libs/glibc-2.8_p20080602::installed requires <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
> * sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed
>
> I can understand that udept, gentoolkit and python-updater apear on the list,
> but what in hell makes kdelibs, sun-jdk or even glibc depend on portage???
>
> /me scratching head.
>
> Bye...
>
> 	Dirk


Interesting also is that <=sys-libs/glibc-2.6.1 doesn't have that 
dependency.

glibc is very tricky to upgrade, since almost everything depends on it. 
(That's at least been my past experience -- it's been a while since I did 
it without a package manager. But it was always something I was loathe to 
upgrade on a remote server.)

So, my guess is that, to deal with the installation trickiness, portage 
uses workarounds for newer glibc's that aren't available in earlier 
versions of portage. (...though nothing looked crazy in a quick glance at 
the glibc ChangeLog and 2.8_p20080602 ebuild. Anyone know what 'eblits' 
are?)

I'd also guess that a more appropriate thing to put in DEPEND would be:

!<sys-apps/portage-2.1.2

(I'm assuming you didn't install glibc-2.8_p20080602 with portage.)

Best,
Ben

From florian.petran at googlemail.com  Sat Oct 11 11:56:26 2008
From: florian.petran at googlemail.com (Florian Petran)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:56:26 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] Uninstalling portage
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0810111002360.6314@acer.home.local>
References: <200810111526.26380.dirk.heinrichs@online.de>
	<alpine.LNX.2.00.0810111002360.6314@acer.home.local>
Message-ID: <26e859020810110856l63be4606oc40f73663cbe882b@mail.gmail.com>

I think the dependency of sun-jdk is due to java-config which
apparently does something strange with portage. Seems like portage is
still the Internet Explorer of gentoo.

2008/10/11 Benjamin R. Haskell <paludis at benizi.com>:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've noticed there's a virtual/portage now, so I tried uninstalling sys-
>> apps/portage and got this:
>>
>> # paludis --uninstall -p portage
>> Building unmerge list... done
>>
>> These packages will be uninstalled:
>>
>> * app-accessibility/freetts-1.2.1-r1::installed requires
>> <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
>> * app-admin/python-updater-0.6::installed requires
>> <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
>> * app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.4.2::installed requires
>> <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
>> * app-portage/udept-0.5.99.0.2.95-r1::installed requires
>> <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
>> * dev-java/ant-core-1.7.1-r1::installed requires
>> <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
>> * dev-java/sun-jdk-1.6.0.07-r1::installed requires
>> <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
>> * kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.9-r4:3.5::installed requires
>> <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
>> * sys-libs/glibc-2.8_p20080602::installed requires
>> <sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed>
>> * sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12::installed
>>
>> I can understand that udept, gentoolkit and python-updater apear on the
>> list,
>> but what in hell makes kdelibs, sun-jdk or even glibc depend on portage???
>>
>> /me scratching head.
>>
>> Bye...
>>
>>        Dirk
>
>
> Interesting also is that <=sys-libs/glibc-2.6.1 doesn't have that
> dependency.
>
> glibc is very tricky to upgrade, since almost everything depends on it.
> (That's at least been my past experience -- it's been a while since I did it
> without a package manager. But it was always something I was loathe to
> upgrade on a remote server.)
>
> So, my guess is that, to deal with the installation trickiness, portage uses
> workarounds for newer glibc's that aren't available in earlier versions of
> portage. (...though nothing looked crazy in a quick glance at the glibc
> ChangeLog and 2.8_p20080602 ebuild. Anyone know what 'eblits' are?)
>
> I'd also guess that a more appropriate thing to put in DEPEND would be:
>
> !<sys-apps/portage-2.1.2
>
> (I'm assuming you didn't install glibc-2.8_p20080602 with portage.)
>
> Best,
> Ben
> _______________________________________________
> paludis-user mailing list
> paludis-user at lists.pioto.org
> http://lists.pioto.org/mailman/listinfo/paludis-user
>

From exherbo at bernd-steinhauser.de  Sat Oct 11 12:19:29 2008
From: exherbo at bernd-steinhauser.de (Bernd Steinhauser)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:19:29 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] Uninstalling portage
In-Reply-To: <200810111526.26380.dirk.heinrichs@online.de>
References: <200810111526.26380.dirk.heinrichs@online.de>
Message-ID: <48F0D211.6000505@bernd-steinhauser.de>

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> I can understand that udept, gentoolkit and python-updater apear on the list, 
> but what in hell makes kdelibs, sun-jdk or even glibc depend on portage???

I don't know about sun-jdk or glibc, but kdelibs is on that list because 
it didn't work with an old portage version.
Instead of a blocker, a dep has been added.

If you want to remove Portage, the answer is importare, but be warned, 
that that may be a *very* bad idea.
I'd rather keep Portage on the system.

Regards,
Bernd

From ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com  Mon Oct 13 12:28:53 2008
From: ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com (Ciaran McCreesh)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:28:53 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] Who wants contrarius?
Message-ID: <20081013172853.2807f6e6@snowmobile>

contrarius depends rather heavily upon some nastily hacked Gentoo
ebuilds that aren't well tested, that are very configuration sensitive
and that get broken on a regular basis. Even when it does work it's
largely pointless because ebuilds don't support cross compiling.

Would anyone like to step up and volunteer to maintain contrarius?
You'll need a decent knowledge of C++, familiarity with how those
horrible toolchain ebuilds on Gentoo work and time to keep bringing
contrarius up to date with both Gentoo's changes and Paludis API
changes.

If we can't get someone to pick contrarius up, I'm seriously considering
dropping it in 0.32.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh
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From matthew.m.mccormick at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 16:39:54 2008
From: matthew.m.mccormick at gmail.com (thewtex)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:39:54 -0500
Subject: [paludis-user] Who wants contrarius?
In-Reply-To: <20081013172853.2807f6e6@snowmobile>
References: <20081013172853.2807f6e6@snowmobile>
Message-ID: <200810131539.54693.matthew.m.mccormick@gmail.com>

I would like to help, but I don't have the time or cross-compiling know-how to 
do so.

On Monday 13 October 2008 11:28:53 am Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> contrarius depends rather heavily upon some nastily hacked Gentoo
> ebuilds that aren't well tested, that are very configuration sensitive
> and that get broken on a regular basis. Even when it does work it's
> largely pointless because ebuilds don't support cross compiling.

My experience with contrarius was for setting up a cross-compiler for distcc.

>
> If we can't get someone to pick contrarius up, I'm seriously considering
> dropping it in 0.32.

The portage way for setting up cross-compilers is sys-dev/crossdev, which is a 
big bash script hard-coded for use with portage.  If contrarius is dropped, 
do you anticipate any problems if crossdev is used alongside paludis?  The 
only problem I would expect may be maintaining paludis config files and 
neglecting some of the portage configs that would be relevent.

From codehero at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 17:53:48 2008
From: codehero at gmail.com (Dave Bender)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:53:48 -0400
Subject: [paludis-user] Who wants contrarius?
In-Reply-To: <20081013172853.2807f6e6@snowmobile>
References: <20081013172853.2807f6e6@snowmobile>
Message-ID: <1fe498980810131453m65e3a96cp7fc6f59dec5824d5@mail.gmail.com>

A tool for building cross compilers is actually quite useful (I currently
use crossdev). So I was interested, but in looking at contrarius I came to
this conclusion: There is a disconnect between contrarius' intended audience
and its implementation.

-Developers coding for say, arm processors, are writing bootloaders or
writing programs in C. If they use C++, it does not resemble the following:

std::tr1::shared_ptr<const PackageIDSequence>
c((*_env)[selection::BestVersionOnly(

generator::Matches(parse_user_package_dep_spec(TargetConfig::get_instance()->gcc(),
                         _env.get(), UserPackageDepSpecOptions())) |
                         filter::InstalledAtRoot(_env->root()))]);
(from stage.cc)

Looking at it, this code does seem quite elegant. But since there are no
comments, and its hard for me to tell what's a function and what's a ctor, I
can't really follow it, much less maintain it. While there may some benefit
for the average embedded developer to understand higher C++ constructs, they
just don't really.

The other possible intended audience are developers who may want to cross
compile on an x86_64 host for 32 bit based hosts. As Ciaran pointed out,
this is largely a useless effort, since people use 32bit chroots for this
anyway.

On the other hand, while crossdev is a not a pretty sequence of hacks, parts
of it are accessible to the average embedded developer, such as platform
parsing code. The ebuild/portage parts are obviously beyond comprehension or
desire to comprehend.

If you want a paludis improved cross toolchain builder, you would want to
make a bash script similar to crossdev but with the portage portions
replaced by paludis equivalents. There would also need to be ebuilds for
gcc, etc specifically developed for cross compiling, to separate them from
the hacks in the ebuilds intended for hosts. As I see it, crossdev merely
links to the regular ebulids in the overlay.

-Dave

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Ciaran McCreesh <
ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com> wrote:

> contrarius depends rather heavily upon some nastily hacked Gentoo
> ebuilds that aren't well tested, that are very configuration sensitive
> and that get broken on a regular basis. Even when it does work it's
> largely pointless because ebuilds don't support cross compiling.


>
> Would anyone like to step up and volunteer to maintain contrarius?
> You'll need a decent knowledge of C++, familiarity with how those
> horrible toolchain ebuilds on Gentoo work and time to keep bringing
> contrarius up to date with both Gentoo's changes and Paludis API
> changes.
>
> If we can't get someone to pick contrarius up, I'm seriously considering
> dropping it in 0.32.
>
> --
> Ciaran McCreesh
>
> _______________________________________________
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> paludis-user at lists.pioto.org
> http://lists.pioto.org/mailman/listinfo/paludis-user
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From dirk.heinrichs.ext at nsn.com  Tue Oct 14 01:56:41 2008
From: dirk.heinrichs.ext at nsn.com (Dirk Heinrichs)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:56:41 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] Who wants contrarius?
In-Reply-To: <20081013172853.2807f6e6@snowmobile>
References: <20081013172853.2807f6e6@snowmobile>
Message-ID: <200810140756.48096.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com>

Am Montag 13 Oktober 2008 18:28:53 schrieb ext Ciaran McCreesh:

> If we can't get someone to pick contrarius up, I'm seriously considering
> dropping it in 0.32.

Wouldn't it anyway be better to make the packaging system cross-compile safe 
and add the logic for creating the crosscompiler into the toolchain 
ebuilds/eclass (or exheres)? Would make it easier IMHO to adapt to special 
requirements for different cross-compilers.

In the end, the user would install sys-devel/i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc or sys-
devel/sparc-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc instead of just sys-devel/gcc and - 
depending on host architecture - should get a native or a cross-compiler.

Each of them could also support its own set of USE flags (or options).

Bye...

	Dirk
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From tomcooksey at googlemail.com  Tue Oct 14 03:20:54 2008
From: tomcooksey at googlemail.com (Tom Cooksey)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:20:54 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] Who wants contrarius?
In-Reply-To: <1fe498980810131453m65e3a96cp7fc6f59dec5824d5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20081013172853.2807f6e6@snowmobile>
	<1fe498980810131453m65e3a96cp7fc6f59dec5824d5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eed7f0160810140020k66de51d0laed4e84e75932208@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/13/08, Dave Bender <codehero at gmail.com> wrote:
> A tool for building cross compilers is actually quite useful (I currently
> use crossdev).

IMO, it's not _that_ useful. The problem is that a lot of the
development boards I've come accross ship their own "customized"
uclibc on the rootfs. If you link your application against a different
libc (the one contrarius built for you), it generally seg-faults when
you come to run it on the device. Devices with GNU-EABI based glibc
seem to be much better, but I've still seen some issues.

The only use I can see in rolling your own toolchain is if you want to
generate your own rootfs with the toolchain's libc. As someone
commented before, most of the ebuilds in portage don't cross-compile
properly, so doing a complete rootfs is pretty painful. OpenEmbedded
is a much better option for doing that. Personally I _hate_
OpenEmbedded, but I have to admit, it does get the job done.

There's also the probem of maintaining the gcc patch set to make it
actually build as a cross-compiler. It's hard work and IMO not worth
it. Almost everyone I know now uses the CodeSourcery toolchains,
certainly for arm and I use it for other architectures too. Perhaps it
would be better to add packages for the CodeSourcery cross-toolchains
rather than try to maintain our own toolchain-generator? Or perhaps
add packages for crosstool? I.e. let someone else have the headache.

> The other possible intended audience are developers who may want to cross
> compile on an x86_64 host for 32 bit based hosts. As Ciaran pointed out,
> this is largely a useless effort, since people use 32bit chroots for this
> anyway.

Why chroot exactly? I "cross-compile" for 32-bit all the time as my
code depends on some binary-only 32-bit (OpenGL ES) libraries. I find
passing -m32 to gcc works every time (as long as you have
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-* installed) :-)


Cheers,

Tom

From ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com  Tue Oct 14 14:16:31 2008
From: ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com (Ciaran McCreesh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:16:31 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] Who wants contrarius?
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:53:48 -0400
"Dave Bender" <codehero at gmail.com> wrote:
> Looking at it, this code does seem quite elegant. But since there are
> no comments, and its hard for me to tell what's a function and what's
> a ctor, I can't really follow it, much less maintain it.

Well... Functions vs constructors shouldn't matter. And yes, the query
syntax takes a bit of getting used to, because we've gone for a way
that lets us deal with very powerful, very efficient, static checked
queries in a compact manner at the expense of you having to learn the
query interface first. We tend to go with things that make code easy to
maintain, not easy to learn.

As for comments... You've got the method name and method documentation.
We try to have as few comments in function implementations as possible
because if an implementation needs comments and can't be understood by
someone who knows the main API then it's probably too complicated.

If you aren't familiar with the main API, then yes, you'll get extremely
confused jumping in and trying to read method implementations.

> On the other hand, while crossdev is a not a pretty sequence of
> hacks, parts of it are accessible to the average embedded developer,
> such as platform parsing code. The ebuild/portage parts are obviously
> beyond comprehension or desire to comprehend.

Heh. You say that, but in practice it's only 'accessible' until you try
to change any of it. Then you find a simple, supposedly innocent change
makes everything fall apart. Cross toolchains on Gentoo are not at all
pretty.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh
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From ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com  Tue Oct 14 14:18:06 2008
From: ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com (Ciaran McCreesh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:18:06 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] Who wants contrarius?
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:56:41 +0200
Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext at nsn.com> wrote:
> Am Montag 13 Oktober 2008 18:28:53 schrieb ext Ciaran McCreesh:
> > If we can't get someone to pick contrarius up, I'm seriously
> > considering dropping it in 0.32.
> 
> Wouldn't it anyway be better to make the packaging system
> cross-compile safe and add the logic for creating the crosscompiler
> into the toolchain ebuilds/eclass (or exheres)? Would make it easier
> IMHO to adapt to special requirements for different cross-compilers.

Well yes, but that'd require massive amounts of work from the
distribution, and for Gentoo that's never going to happen.

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From v.tolstov at selfip.ru  Tue Oct 21 17:20:51 2008
From: v.tolstov at selfip.ru (Vasiliy G Tolstov)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:20:51 +0400
Subject: [paludis-user] wrong file name in message
Message-ID: <1224624051.31364.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

"This error usually indicates that one of the packages you are trying to
install requires that another package be built with particular USE flags
enabled or disabled. You may be able to work around this restriction by
adjusting your use.conf."

but use.conf now options.conf =)


-- 
Vasiliy G Tolstov <v.tolstov at selfip.ru>
Selfip.Ru


From spbecker at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 17:51:02 2008
From: spbecker at gmail.com (Stephen P. Becker)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:51:02 -0500
Subject: [paludis-user] wrong file name in message
In-Reply-To: <1224624051.31364.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:20:51 +0400
Vasiliy G Tolstov <v.tolstov at selfip.ru> wrote:

> "This error usually indicates that one of the packages you are trying
> to install requires that another package be built with particular USE
> flags enabled or disabled. You may be able to work around this
> restriction by adjusting your use.conf."
> 
> but use.conf now options.conf =)

Only on Exherbo.

From ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com  Tue Oct 21 17:51:28 2008
From: ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com (Ciaran McCreesh)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:51:28 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] wrong file name in message
In-Reply-To: <1224624051.31364.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1224624051.31364.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:20:51 +0400
Vasiliy G Tolstov <v.tolstov at selfip.ru> wrote:
> "This error usually indicates that one of the packages you are trying
> to install requires that another package be built with particular USE
> flags enabled or disabled. You may be able to work around this
> restriction by adjusting your use.conf."
> 
> but use.conf now options.conf =)

Yup, you'll see all kinds of things like that if you're using Exherbo.
We fix them when people send patches.

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Ciaran McCreesh
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From v.tolstov at selfip.ru  Wed Oct 22 17:00:49 2008
From: v.tolstov at selfip.ru (Vasiliy G Tolstov)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:00:49 +0400
Subject: [paludis-user] gtk+ and cairo problems
Message-ID: <1224709249.31364.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hello!
I'm using exherbo, when i'm try to install gtk+ or cairo' i have error
about circular depencies:

home / # paludis -i -p cairo
Building target list... 
Building dependency list...
Dependency error:
  * In program paludis -i -p cairo:
  * When performing install action from command line:
  * When executing install task:
  * When building dependency list:
  * When adding PackageDepSpec 'x11-libs/cairo':
  * When adding package 'x11-libs/cairo-1.8.0:0::x11':
  * When adding build dependencies as pre dependencies:
  * When adding PackageDepSpec 'x11-libs/gtk+:2':
  * When adding package 'x11-libs/gtk+-2.14.3:2::gnome':
  * When adding build dependencies as pre dependencies:
  * When adding PackageDepSpec '>=x11-libs/cairo-1.6[X][pdf]':
  * Circular dependency: Atom '>=x11-libs/cairo-1.6[X][pdf]' matched by
merge list entry 'x11-libs/cairo-1.8.0:0::x11', which does not yet have
its dependencies installed (paludis::CircularDependencyError)

home / # cat /etc/paludis/options.conf 
*/* -bash-completion nls freetype -pam unicode ipv6 X pdf python svg xcb
doc
sys-apps/paludis inquisitio vim-syntax
app-text/poppler glib

How can i install this packages ?

-- 
Vasiliy G Tolstov <v.tolstov at selfip.ru>
Selfip.Ru


From ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com  Wed Oct 22 17:34:43 2008
From: ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com (Ciaran McCreesh)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:34:43 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] gtk+ and cairo problems
In-Reply-To: <1224709249.31364.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1224709249.31364.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:00:49 +0400
Vasiliy G Tolstov <v.tolstov at selfip.ru> wrote:
> I'm using exherbo, when i'm try to install gtk+ or cairo' i have error
> about circular depencies:

I suggest you use the Exherbo user support mechanisms to ask about this
kind of thing.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh
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From tomas.linhart at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 11:11:15 2008
From: tomas.linhart at gmail.com (Tomas Linhart)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:11:15 +0200
Subject: [paludis-user] Confusing security related paludis --report output
Message-ID: <b220ab930810240811r7f2a3e34xbbb3fcd593106f61@mail.gmail.com>

I am little confused by the output of paludis --report.

When I run paludis --report I get the following complaint about security issue.

kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r2:3.5::installed NOT OK
    This package has following security issues:
    GLSA-200804-30: "KDE start_kdeinit: Multiple vulnerabilities"
        -> /var/paludis/repositories/gentoo/metadata/glsa/glsa-200804-30.xml


I ran glsa-check to find out more informaction about the security
issue and I got:

# glsa-check --print 200804-30

GLSA 200804-30:
KDE start_kdeinit: Multiple vulnerabilities
...
Affected package:  kde-base/kdelibs
Affected archs:    All
Vulnerable:        <4.0
Unaffected:        >=~3.5.8-r4>=~3.5.9-r3>4.0<3.5.5
...

It seems to me that kdelibs-3.5.10 should be OK as it should match the
condition >=~3.5.9-r3

# glsa-check --list affected
shows no affected packages

Anyone knows why is paludis reporting this security issue?

Thanks.

From ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com  Mon Oct 27 02:37:50 2008
From: ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com (Ciaran McCreesh)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:37:50 +0000
Subject: [paludis-user] Confusing security related paludis --report
 output
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Message-ID: <20081027063750.2415f3b7@snowmobile>

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:11:15 +0200
"Tomas Linhart" <tomas.linhart at gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems to me that kdelibs-3.5.10 should be OK as it should match the
> condition >=~3.5.9-r3

10 isn't 9.

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From kejpi at centrum.cz  Mon Oct 27 17:39:39 2008
From: kejpi at centrum.cz (Petr =?utf-8?q?Kopeck=C3=BD?=)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:39:39 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] imlib2 not updated
Message-ID: <200810272239.43771.kejpi@centrum.cz>

Hello,

I have found that for some reasin imlib2 iz ignored by paludis and not 
updated.

#?paludis -r
Current state of the system

* media-libs/imlib2-1.4.0-r1::installed NOT OK
    No longer exists in original repositories 'gentoo'


#?paludis -q imlib2
* media-libs/imlib2
    installed:               1.4.0-r1* {:0}
    gentoo:                  1.4.1 1.4.2 {:0}
    Description:             Version 2 of an advanced replacement library for 
libraries like libXpm
    Homepage:                http://www.enlightenment.org/
    Relevant USE flags:      (X) (bzip2) (-doc) (gif) (jpeg) (mmx) (mp3) (nls) 
(png) (tiff) (zlib)
    License:                 BSD
    Installed time:          Sat Jun 14 18:52:24 2008
    From repositories:       gentoo
    Installed using:         paludis-0.26.2

# grep kipi-plugins /var/lib/portage/world
media-plugins/kipi-plugins

Kipi-plugins depends on >=media-libs/imlib2-1.1.0, kipi-plugins is in world 
but "paludis -i world" ignores imlib2 :-(

This is my paludis options:
# echo $PALUDIS_OPTIONS
--checks none --debug-build none --show-reasons 
summary --show-use-descriptions changed --dl-downgrade 
warning --dl-installed-deps-pre pre-or-post --log-level warning --dl-upgrade 
always --resume-command-template /root/.paludis-resume-XXXXXX

What am I doing wrong?

Thank you!

Regards,
Petr

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From tomas.linhart at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 04:34:41 2008
From: tomas.linhart at gmail.com (Tomas Linhart)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:34:41 +0100
Subject: [paludis-user] Confusing security related paludis --report
	output
In-Reply-To: <20081027063750.2415f3b7@snowmobile>
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	<20081027063750.2415f3b7@snowmobile>
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2008/10/27 Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh at googlemail.com>:
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:11:15 +0200
> "Tomas Linhart" <tomas.linhart at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It seems to me that kdelibs-3.5.10 should be OK as it should match the
>> condition >=~3.5.9-r3
>
> 10 isn't 9.
>

OK, thank you for the Math lesson :-) I have either overlooked the "~"
sign or misinterpreted the meaning of that condition. After further
investigation it seems to me that the problem has been fixed in
3.5.10. Does this mean that glsa-200804-30.xml  is not correct or am I
doing something wrong?

Thanks again.